The first one he did last summer. It was a roached 50 cal that he re-bored to 54 1:28 twist for PP bullets. The second one I just got back on Friday. 2 week turn around. It was 50 cal with a frosted bore that he re bored to 54 cal 1:60 twist with .012 deep rifling for patched RB.Reaction score. 4,974. Jul 7, 2020. #4. "Curious as to your opinions as to the best magazines dedicated to muzzleloading as it relates to my interests. Specifically, the 1750-1865 period with an emphasis on Flintlocks." With the criteria that you want, Muzzle Blasts would not fulfill it. It's a good magazine, but it is written for a broad audience.9,020. Location. New England. Nov 8, 2022. #2. Yes it would be a custom job to get that small of a smoothbore barrel. Also I think you're on to something interesting. Our brother "Britsmoothy" uses a .45 smoothbore to great effect. He may have a suggestion about a smooth small caliber barrel.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.The bullet is a 507 grain, with a single wrap 20# paper patch. The bullet goes down with a small amount of pressure, but not very much. I was shooting at 100 yards with the first shot 2" from the group with the other 4 shots being in a 1 1/4" group. This is the very best I have been able to shoot with this gun.A 1:48 twist in larger calibers (.45 and up) is generally very finicky in what it will shoot accurately with. Ask any serious Buffalo match or bench rest shooter what the twist is in their rifles. Invariably they will be 1:66; 1:72 or even 1:144.Spring Rendezvous Oregon. Please join the Forest Hills Black Powder Brigade for its annual Spring Rendezvous in Mill City, Oregon May 24-27. Events include black powder rifle/pistol/trade gun, hawk and knife, primitive archery, frying pan toss, long gong shoot, children's games and activities, traders, primitive and... gferlitsch.Kevin Houlihan said: There's a ton of room for the rear lock bolt. The bolt will screw into the bolster to the rear of the screw that attaches the bolster to the plate. Next drill your front lock bolt so it will screw into the lock plate in front of the main spring. Be sure to miss the barrel and the ramrod groove.Location. Colorado. Dec 21, 2017. #3. Black powder needs the length to burn completely. The short barrel like 20 or 22 inches is cute but has lots of short comings in muzzle loaders. The old timers sorted out how long a barrel needed to be and as powder got better the barrel got shorter.Reaction score. 5,030. Location. Winchester, VA. Mar 1, 2020. #2. "CMC Single Shot Replica Percussion .44 Caliber Pistol. This was made in the 1970s under license for the Colt Manufacturing Company. (They are marked "CMC")" From a listing on Guns International.com. " CMC SINGLE SHOT REPLICA PERCUSSION PISTOL.Reaction score. 334. Jul 2, 2023. #9. I have said before the first thing to do with a colt clone is to smooth the hammer face. This is the most common cause of cap jams. I use a hard arkansas stone on the face of the hammer to smooth it. And it should not be a surprise that RWS caps fit on original nipples.Ok I got a good old cva st.louis hawken in 54. I used to hunt elk with it. The load I used was 90 grains of rs and a cast 380 grain real bullet.do to bad neck and back I can no longer shoot this load. So I was thinking using it on deer with a round ball. Most shots at black tail deer here or...Clothing | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.Dec 16, 2023 · Patrick Rumora said: There is a huge difference between black powder and smokeless black powder and I want to make a few things clear. 1) Do not try to use any smokeless powders in any type of muzzleloader, UNLESS IT SPECIFIES IT. 2) If you don't understand the difference between black powder and smokeless powders. 6,835. Reaction score. 7,792. Dec 5, 2023. #1. Rec'd. the Dec. Muzzle Blasts 12/5; they said pallets of the issue are still at the St. Louis PO distribution due to a "mercury contamination issue"! Maybe the same printer/mailer handled the Muzzleloader magazine issues?Turn it with an electric drill, and run the emery up and down the barrel a couple of hundred times; that should remove a lot of the pits unless they are very deep. Change the emery often to keep it sharp. Finish up with very fine emery to polish. This has done wonders for a couple of old shotguns I have messed with.Andover, VT. Apr 28, 2021. #4. Chunk gun shooting goes way back before the mid 1900s. Our ML club has a barrel dating to the Civil War era that has been re-breeched, re-stocked, and rifling re-cut many times. All the flats have multiple dovetails on them as it's had under lugs and sights at every position possible.The patent breech in percussion guns is safer and easier to clean. Drum and nipple breeches are manure from several perspectives. Most modern patent breeches on the factory made guns are designed to be cheap to make and install. I believe the Nock antechamber breech gives better velocity but experience is limited.1. Jan 31, 2024. #4. Lakes Crossing Muzzleloaders are still around. FB is where to contact them. I need to pay my dues. Not sure how the club is doing though, as their main shooting range looks like it is in the history books, and they are looking for new shooting places. They usually sponsor 3 'rondyvoos' each year, tin tipis ok.May 13, 2023 · Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us. For all of your Traditional & Modern Muzzleloader Shooting Accessories! Powder, Ball,ConicalSabot, Patch, Lube, Caps, Flint,Primers, Range rods, Ramrods, Repair parts, Slings, Upgrades, Possibles Bags, Powder horns, Powder Flasks, EVERYTHING that involves accessories or parts for your muzzle loader!Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Mar 1, 2024. AZ Muzzleloaders posted the thread FOR SALE 54 Caliber Custom Hawken. Built from TOTW Parts Set, Curly Maple in Firearms For Sale/Trade/Wanted . Built about 1986 from a Track of the Wolf parts set. Barrel measures 32 1/4" x 1" (actual 0.985"), 1:66 rate of twist.40 Cal. There are many variables to consider when working up a load for any muzzleloading rifle. Bore size, rare of twist, patching material for round ball, powder type, lube for your bullet/patches. all of these things will affect accuracy and the type of powder you use and the best charge to use.69 Cal. I'm working on a TOW Brown Bess Kit, which according to Jess Melot the owner of the rifle shoppe, the 1746 Wilets kit was a kit he designed 30 years ago for CD Jarnigan Co. That was copied over by Track of the Wolf. On a difficultly level, I can't really say much because its my first kit build.Reaction score. 2. Jul 11, 2005. #6. Russ Hamm (in Indiana) made flint and percussion locks (no longer in production) patterned after Ashmore and marked "Ashmore Warranted" in two lines. I had a right hand flint lock and it was excellent quality. I believe Mr. Hamm stamped the insides of the lockplates with his name, but do not recall for certain.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.69 Cal. Most frizzens today are made of 6150 steel which is an oil hardening steel, however it will never get hard enough with an oil quench, so you need to use water. I've never had any issues with a 6150 frizzen cracking in a water quench after tempering. Only springs made of 6150 I've had crack in a water quench.Jan 3, 2024. #1. Traditions .50 Kentucky rifle percussion kit. It's not all fancy schmantzy, but I've wanted to build this particular rifle since the mid 80's. Had the .45 Cal CVA kit of the same type when I was in the Marines, but didn't have the tools nor the smarts at the time to build it. M.I have my Walkers modified by Master Black Powder Gunsmith Dykes Reber of the muzzleloadershop.com and Master Revolver Tunner Mike Brackett of goonsgunworks.com. Master BP Gunsmith Dykes Reber puts on Taller Front Sight, an 1860 Loading Lever Latch and Post, Cuts the Forcing Cone, Permanently Pins the Arbor Pin with a Threaded Allen Screw with Lock Tight Red, Opens Up the Loading Port, Reams ...3,501. Reaction score. 4,404. Dec 19, 2010. #15. I don't have any experience with antique Belgian muzzleloaders, but I have owned and shot regularly several vintage SxS, including the dreaded damascus and laminated varieties. All were very clean, well maintained guns and I only used 2.5" black powder shell in them.Apple recently announced a new target of using 100% recycled cobalt in all Apple-designed batteries by the year 2025. Apple recently announced a new target of using 100% recycled c...Always work/file on the sight (cheapest part) not the barrel. It for some reason the sight is loose, use a solid brass drift and hammer straight down just in front and to the rear of the sight. This presses the edges or ears of the barrel dove tail onto the rear sight, locking it in position.Monday at 5:40 PM. #1. The fun never stops and the accuracy was totally unexpected. Five shots offhand at ten yards. Tiller rested on right shoulder and pressed down tight with my left hand. Handgonne loaded with 50gr Goex 3F and a.715" ball with a coffee filter wad fore and aft. I touched it off with a long punk from the local fireworks store.32 Cal. When I discovered a 72 cal Pedersoli Double rifle being offered for sale for only $675, I couldn't believe no one jumped on it before me. Well, I jumped because $675 is a super bargain. These rifles usually sell for $1200 - $1600.Mar 10, 2008. #4. When I was a kid, we didn't have fancy pre-made wads. We used pieces of old wasp nest (very good), news paper and even cotton balls. The trick was to pull the cotton balls apart a little bit so that they didn't fly very far. Lubed with a loose beeswax and tallow/olive oil lube they worked well.You don't want this so, what you need to do is to get a damp rag. Then, thoroughly wet the surfaces of the wood and sit it aside to dry. When it is dry, pick the stock up and rub your hand gently from muzzle to butt. In one direction it will feel rather smooth. In the other direction, it will feel very rough.5,750. Reaction score. 8,562. Location. Tyrone , Pa. 16686. Apr 20, 2024. #7. Also , any time you fire one barrel , uncap the unfired one , and run the ramrod down on the remaining loaded barrel to make sure the load is still where you left it , when you last loaded it. This is a safety check many forget.They shoot most accuretly if the clearance is .003 or less. That's a pretty snug fit and can be pretty hard to load in a fouled bore. The original Minie' bullet to bore fit could be all over the map and it was usually rather loose so accuracy suffered and for the most part the military didn't care.Location. St. Louis, MO. Feb 20, 2022. #3. As far as being a turkey gun, the 56 caliber smooth bore can be loaded up to be an effective turkey gun and it will be effective for all the other game you mentioned. There are lots of threads on the Forum extolling the effectiveness of the 56 caliber smoothbore. It's an effective 28 gauge.2024 Muzzleloader Guide - Notes. Putting together a packing List for what to get to begin a semi-traditional style of practicing ML hunting. Please feel free to add recommendations and advice on what you think works best in your experience. Rifle - Something maybe a little shorter than a full long rifle im a sucker for mannlicher styled rifles.54 Cal. I shot about a 110lb deer in the upper shoulder with a 72cal pure lead round ball out of my fowler. The only deer I have shot with the gun. I was using 100 gr of 1F, the distance was about 25 yards. I expected the ball to blow a daylight hole through the deer but I didn't get an exit wound.Oct 13, 2013 · 2,427. Location. Federal Way Washington. Nov 23, 2022. #1. Thompson Center traditional muzzleloaders, arguably the best production blackpowder guns ever made. That ought to get some blood boiling. Nashville. Yesterday at 2:03 AM. #1. Hi all, new to the forum, I recently bought my first BP rifle, an original 1861 Springfield artillery rifle. I shot pyrodex in it and had a stuck ball. So to help lodge it lose I soaked it in lightly soapy water to help break it free. Couple hours later I return and my original patina is removed in like ...I am in the process of finding the most accurate hunting bullet for my 1:38 twist 58 cal carbine In the line up are 580 grain Maxi-ball, 560 grain Maxi-hunter, 440 grain REAL as well as some oversized minie ball 500 grain. I wish I could get my hands on some more maxi-hunters.In the next few days I'll be out at the board. Going to test 80 grain 2f, 2 over powder cards, 1 & 1/4 oz 5 shot, lubed fiber wad. The second is the same but shot is in a paper shotcup. Third is the same as both but will vary powder down to 70 grain. Hoping for some good results.Smokeless Muzzleloading. Post thread. Loads, tips, and shooting for the Savage muzzleloader, SMI smokeless and other muzzleloaders approved for smokeless ONLY. Warning! Smokeless powder loads are not for use in any other muzzleloaders.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.88. Reaction score. 0. Nov 23, 2007. #1. When I first started to shoot muzzle loaders in the seventies a friend of mine had a bullet sizing tool for 58 cal bullets. It was a wooden block with a small dowel rod. Inside of the wooded block was a metal sizing die. You just put the bullet into the top of the thing and push down with the supplied ...Kevin Houlihan said: There’s a ton of room for the rear lock bolt. The bolt will screw into the bolster to the rear of the screw that attaches the bolster to the plate. Next drill your front lock bolt so it will screw into the lock plate in front of the main spring. Be sure to miss the barrel and the ramrod groove.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.You don't want this so, what you need to do is to get a damp rag. Then, thoroughly wet the surfaces of the wood and sit it aside to dry. When it is dry, pick the stock up and rub your hand gently from muzzle to butt. In one direction it will feel rather smooth. In the other direction, it will feel very rough.69 Cal. I’m working on a TOW Brown Bess Kit, which according to Jess Melot the owner of the rifle shoppe, the 1746 Wilets kit was a kit he designed 30 years ago for CD Jarnigan Co. That was copied over by Track of the Wolf. On a difficultly level, I can’t really say much because its my first kit build.Apr 14, 2024 · Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us. Messages. 7,913. Reaction score. 1,950. Apr 21, 2013. #8. According to the Greenhill formula for calculating the spin required for a given bullet length or, conversely, length of bullet which can be stabilized by a given twist, a twist of 1:66 will work for bullets .568" long or shorter in a .50 caliber. Spence.Reaction score. 11,681. Location. St. Louis, MO. Feb 9, 2018. #20. Historically the very short barreled smooth bores would have been thought of as blanket guns to be hidden under a blanket for defense or a surprise assault. The canoe gun is a modern term for a short barreled gun that might have been used in a canoe.Reaction score. 0. Feb 2, 2013. #4. Cynthialee said: I just droped the hammer on a .56 SB drop in barrel for my Renegade. Insert standard issue questions of recomended shot and round ball loads. Oh yeah...never shot a smooth bore smoker before. Plenty of modern smoothbores but not BP.Location. Andover, VT. Aug 25, 2012. #2. Nitric acid is technically aquafortis, for sure, but the solution folks use to stain rifles is saturated with iron. Make the 10% or up to 25% solution, add iron shavings or small nails, let it cook uncovered until it is done consuming iron. Filter through a coffee filter, etc, and use this to stain maple.26. Location. Woodlands of Northern New England. Jan 4, 2006. #4. No disrespect intended to Stumpkiller, I'm very big into target shooting and competitive shoots. While target shooting i've had many people come over to watch me with a muzzleloader,try mine and then get into muzzleloading at our club shoots.That's a good question--from past experience there are Pedersoli guns that are well worth their expense. Some of their target pistols and rifles are well respected as having good growing value and the ability to shoot well.Turkey city pa. Mar 25, 2024. #1. Bought my first muzzleloader flintlock shotgun recently. I've been trying to work up a load that was consistent. Your load formula had the best results for my gun by a wide margin. I'm still hitting consistently to the right of my aming point.Sep 27, 2023. #2. AZmark said: Midwestreloads.com is a scam site. I went there because they had percussion caps that no one else seems to have in stock. They only take Paypal, Zelle, or Cashapp for payment. I looked them up and sure enough SCAM. Luckily I didn't fall for it.1. Jan 31, 2024. #4. Lakes Crossing Muzzleloaders are still around. FB is where to contact them. I need to pay my dues. Not sure how the club is doing though, as their main shooting range looks like it is in the history books, and they are looking for new shooting places. They usually sponsor 3 'rondyvoos' each year, tin tipis ok.Hi, You should buy Ricky Robert and Bryan Brown's little book "Every Insult and Indignity" which is a short history of the rifle and Ferguson and it describes their intensive experiments with powder, ball, and lubrication. Use a mix of beeswax and either mutton tallow or Crisco melted together to lubricate the threads. Dip the screw plug into the warm melted wax and tallow mix.Jan 16, 2020 · 69 Cal. I’m working on a TOW Brown Bess Kit, which according to Jess Melot the owner of the rifle shoppe, the 1746 Wilets kit was a kit he designed 30 years ago for CD Jarnigan Co. That was copied over by Track of the Wolf. On a difficultly level, I can’t really say much because its my first kit build. Concrete nails are easily found at your local hardware store. Heat to a bright red color and allow to cool slowly (softens the hardened concrete nail), shape with a hammer and/or files, heat to a bright cherry red and quench in oil or water, temper in your (toaster) oven at 375-400F for an hour and do a final sharpening.At least for now, he'll self-isolate at home. On Nov. 1, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), announced that he had come into co...Apr 18, 2008 · 4. Sep 7, 2008. #8. There's almost as many different types of patchbox release mechanisms as their are schools of longrifles. Some builders that try to recreate specific longrifles as exactly as possible try to use the same type of mechanism as the original rifle they are copying, even if the mechanism is hidden. Jan 5, 2015. #6. AZbpBurner said: I mixed up a 5:1 ratio of DA to Castor oil, and saturated a bunch of patches, leaving them to subsequently dry as the DA evaporated and left an essentially dry-feeling patch. Essentially sounds like Dutch's dry-patch system only different lube components.May 12, 2020 · I did a sort of "halfway house" by milling the slots, but then cutting the dovetails with a three square file with one face ground off.. The bit that gave me nightmares was brazing on the bayonet bar and sling lug.. i used the last of my "old" silver solder on the bar, but had to use new stuff on the sling lug. Smoothbore | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.20. Location. Western Connecticut. Feb 27, 2023. #1. EZ Loader I Cap & Ball Revolver cylinder loader. Sold through Powder Inc. Can be used with all percussion Cap & Ball revolvers. , 40-45 cal and 32-36 cal. All hardware, fittings, instructions included.First off, let me say that I am brand new to flintlock hunting. I have been hunting my entire life and been around guns my entire life. I have hunted with in line muzzle loaders for many years. I bought the Pa. Pellet for the simple reason that it gave me the ability to hunt for a few more weeks in northwest Pa. without breaking the bank.Location. NEK, VT. Sep 6, 2021. #1. Took my new to me T/C Hawken .54 to the range for the first time. I was really looking forward to shooting this as it's my first .54 and I wanted to hunt with it this fall. First shot the nipple shot out into the grass never to be seen again. Took some powder to the forehead, but the glasses saved my eyes.127. Reaction score. 252. Dec 23, 2021. #6. necchi said: With the kit stock as received, lightly wet it, that will enhance the grain appearance. If your stock presents areas of open grain (you'll see it) you could use a light slurry of a bone black agent and sand it back a bit after it dries.4. Sep 7, 2008. #8. There's almost as many different types of patchbox release mechanisms as their are schools of longrifles. Some builders that try to recreate specific longrifles as exactly as possible try to use the same type of mechanism as the original rifle they are copying, even if the mechanism is hidden.zodd, underhammer rifles have been very popular since the mid 19th century, for some hunting rifles but more so for target and precision shooting applications. Billinghurst built some of the most accurate rifles to see competitive use. I, among many, use underhammers for target, as in chunk and bench, casual club shooting and trap shooting.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Please note, every one says ‘by volume’. Pyrodex is not as dense as black powder. Measure with a black powder measure. A hundred grain measures of black powder will throw about eighty grains of pyrodex. You get about 25% more shots from a pound of pyrodex then a pound of black. Always measure by volume not by weight.Dumb question | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...Reaction score. 1,305. Location. Minnesota. Sep 3, 2021. #4. Good load for what, shooting paper at 15 yards or deer at 65. A good load for mine is 25-30 grains of FFG. takes the heads from small game out to 30 yards, 47 grains is a great all around woods carry-target load but 65 grs is better when deer are in season.0. Jan 29, 2007. #1. Hi, Most of my muzzleloader experience is with tc hawkens... I just picked up a used Traditions Deer Hunter, percussion, 1:48" twist 24" barrel, Its a little older model with the wood stock and thin fixed rubber butt plate...gun is in really nice shape, but it needs a few things ! The first and most important is the flat ...Help Support Muzzleloading Forum: This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.Reaction score. 3. Sep 27, 2023. #1. Midwestreloads.com is a scam site. I went there because they had percussion caps that no one else seems to have in stock. They only take Paypal, Zelle, or Cashapp for payment. I looked them up and sure enough SCAM. Luckily I didn't fall for it.Shiloh Sharps 1863 infantry rifle with .535” ball at 50 yards. Loaded loose 2fg powder after lightly breech seating the ball and CCI musket caps. After more then a dozen shots I adjusted the sight for the last two in the bullseye. 383D6502-C1B1-43A3-8F7B-FFEC3DAC92E5 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Apple recently announced a new target of using 100% recycled cobalt in all Apple-designed batteries by the year 2025. Apple recently announced a new target of using 100% recycled c...Reducing width by 25% reduces spring strength by 25%. Thinning by narrowing reduces strength proportionally. Thinning reduces strength relative to the square of the thickness. 3/4 times 3/4 = 9/16. 4/4 times 4/4 =16/16 or one (unchanged). 16/16 minus 9/16 = 7/16 loss or 43% loss.I had a couple of Uberti 1858's a while back, but gave them to my son. However, I did do a little research. @64Springer is right in that you can go blind reading all there is out there, but my guess is you're aware of this and asking for some suggestions to narrow it down. Forget about brand names for a few minutes, and look at features.
I did get a chance to physically hold a Pedersoli Blue Ridge in a 50 caliber, flintlock, this past Saturday. It was a very used one, at a local gun shop and priced within $70 of a new one. My second choice would be a Lyman Great Plains rifle, in a 50 caliber, percussion....but I'd prefer the long rifle.. Porn hub on
I built and shot a Deerhunter percussion gun and found it to be very accurate and a delight to carry for an old guy. that rifle has moved on to a grandson and he has always placed in the top 3 and often #1 when shooting it in competitions. If the sights are dove tailed (as were mine), that would be an easy fix.Jun 6, 2008. #11. I received a box of Hornady Great Plains bullets in .58 caliber with a lightly used .58 cal Zouave. When I got to the range I wiped the bore, poured 60 grains of Pyrodex RS down the hole and started the pre lubed bullet. It got about 12 inches down the bore and stopped.I try to explain it like this. The tried-and-true 45/70. 45 cal. lead bullet pushed by 70 gr. black powder. With muzzle energy of more than 1,600 foot-pounds, the 405 grain FP bullet hit a distance of 200 yards and flew at 1,330 feet per second. This bullet easily killed bears, moose, and bison.Messages. 7,913. Reaction score. 1,950. Apr 21, 2013. #8. According to the Greenhill formula for calculating the spin required for a given bullet length or, conversely, length of bullet which can be stabilized by a given twist, a twist of 1:66 will work for bullets .568" long or shorter in a .50 caliber. Spence.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Campbell said: I've been thinking about a Kibler since I first heard about them (read and watched everything available). Finally ordered a cherry stocked .54 Woodsrunner today! Now, please tell me how much you enjoy your Kibler! I own multiple muzzleloaders with most being cap locks and a few inlines.Throat: .448". As final observation, both barrels are tight at the frame threads. Well, that leaves me pretty well stuck as far as improvements. I'd hoped to ream the cylinder to .001 over groove diameter, but I'm not terribly excited about reaming it to .461. At the same time I have only .001" rifling engagement!Pull the wedges and lift the barrel out of the stock. Do remove the nipple, maybe even that flash channel manufacturing plug that some call a clean out screw. Put the breech in a bucket of water. Add some soap to aid cleaning especially if you use an oil or greasy patch lubricant.What it looks like, does matter. There are some Yazel pistols that fit the forums idea of what is traditional so, if they look like the pistols that were used in 1866 or earlier, they are allowed. There are many Yazel pistols that look like a cross between a traditional sidelock or underhammer gun and a modern Colt 1911 or a High Standard ...Oct 19, 2023. #3. 4' stick of 4" SCH-40 PVC with a strip of something wrapped around it like a barber pole. Pull it through a plywood plate with a hole and notch guide cut in it. Couple 2x4s, some screws, a small stick of round bar, some clamps, and a cutter head that I'll machine.NorCal | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.Reducing width by 25% reduces spring strength by 25%. Thinning by narrowing reduces strength proportionally. Thinning reduces strength relative to the square of the thickness. 3/4 times 3/4 = 9/16. 4/4 times 4/4 =16/16 or one (unchanged). 16/16 minus 9/16 = 7/16 loss or 43% loss.Reducing width by 25% reduces spring strength by 25%. Thinning by narrowing reduces strength proportionally. Thinning reduces strength relative to the square of the thickness. 3/4 times 3/4 = 9/16. 4/4 times 4/4 =16/16 or one (unchanged). 16/16 minus 9/16 = 7/16 loss or 43% loss.Shoot loose is the term for the frame lengthening in the thin area above the cylinder when speaking of a Remington style gun. For a Colt style it means the cylinder pin that holds the barrel to the frame tends to pull out of the rear frame with heavy loads. Dixie Gun recommends the following loads for the .36 cal:.